Admittedly this was the release from the HFPA, but if this section is true, the interim deal Dick Clark Productions were trying to negotiate would have been no different then the one for Worldwide Pants.

Nothing anyone has said has made the case for dismissing this out of hand. It is less work then the Letterman deal, but it is still work that could be done with WGA terms. AND it would be another chink in the wall.

The reality is, unfortunately, we’ve sold out reality and animation before, we’ll do it again, same with sympathy strikes. If the AMPTP offers a reasonable deal on the internet, we’ll give up the other demands and settle. Everyone knows that, including the AMPTP. But the reality is, they have absolutely no plans to move one inch on New Media.

“Though I see many comparisons made here between Dick Clark Productions and WWP, a deal with a company seems to me like a very different case than a deal with a show.”

Exactly. I dn’t see any benefit in making a deal for a special event on a single night, especially a single show that makes a lot of money for the network, and as Nikki says, is simply a marketing tool for the studios. What in the world do we get out of that? That helps us not at all.

What advantage do we get out of making an agreement with Dick Clark? None. Look, if there were 7 awards shows scheduled for the same night, and 6 of them announced they were going on as scheduled with scab writers, THEN it might make sense to make a deal with Clark, picket the other awards shows and try to get SAG members to choose the Globes instead. That would make sense, that’s the situation we were in with Letterman, but that’s NOT the case here.

Making a deal with Clark now would do nothing but provide a financial advantage to NBC and to all the companies whose products are being promoted by the awards show, with no benefit whatsoever to us. This is a one time event, not a film or series! There’s absolutely no reason for us to agree to this deal. One night’s pay for 15 people does not offset the millions of dollars that all the struck companies would reap from such a foolish, unnecessary move.

The HFPA is composed of 100 “journalists” that are the journalistic equivalent of U.S. doctors that graduated from a medical school in Grenada because they couldn’t get into one in the U.S.

Nobody will miss the HFPA. NOBODY - except themselves.

Good riddance, HFPA, if only for one year.

Being a writer on The Shield for seven season, we saw countless “best writing” awards go to other shows not nearly as good as ours (in our humble opinion). We cursed the Emmys and the WGA awards, called them bogus. But of course, we wanted to win. Of course we continued to submit scripts. We wanted acknowledgement from our community. That feeling of recognition is not a sham. It’s very real. Just ask the people who are nominated for Golden Globes this year.

Not giving Dick Clark Prods a waver is right. No writing by guild members sends a clear message.

But picketing the Globes is wrong. Here’s why:

1) It’s fucking selfish. To taint the the night for others who aren’t part of our struggle is wrong. People have worked hard on both sides of the line to get nominated. They’re not showing up to scab, they’re not crossing a picket line to work for Big Media, they’re showing up to support the artistic endeavors of their peers. For many it’s a once in a life time shot. Why shit on that ?

2) It’s egomaniacal. It’s making a night that’s about the entertainment community at large all about the writers. Let’s focus our energy.

3) It’s just a pussy fucking move. C’mon Pat, show some class. Make be proud to be on your side.

Drop the Jurisidction and sympathy strike clauses and present your counter offer before you destroy the industry on SoCal all together. The AMPTP walked out because you showed them to the door with the 6 demands.

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We’ll see how political the leadership is if they give the Oscars - a far more political award show - a pass.

That doesn’t seem very thought out.

So Dick Clark Productions is currently a struck company. Isn’t the point of the divide and conquer strategy to urge the independent struck companies to break away from the AMPTP and negotiate? So negotiate.

Yes, the Globes is a big advertisement for the television and movies. Television and movies that have already been filmed. Television and movies that people want to see. Television series that are not being produced right now, because producers refuse to negotiate. While there is no quarantee that winners will ask that the producers negotiate, there is every chance they will. This is not necessary a lose situation.

What is a lose situation is choosing not to negotiate with Dick Clark Productions. It tells independent producers that it is a crap shoot whether you will actually negotiate with them if they choose to stick their necks out. And as much of a hail mary act as that that release from them and the HFPA was, it was also them sticking their necks out of the foxhole.

I think the divide and conquer strategy is smart, as with the deal with Letterman.

Why doesn’t the WGA want a deal with dick clark productions for the Golden Globes?

I would think that a fabulous interim deal would be very advantageous to the WGA (they can ask for more, for an interim, can’t they?)

These guys look more and more high schoolers by the day. Yelling about the man keeping them down, doing special favors for the cool kids they don’t do for others. Thank god the DGA’s going to get someone in there soon that can make a deal.