Comments on: WGA Emails 'The Playbook Of The AMPTP' http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/wga-emails-the-playbook-of-the-amptp/ Thu, 08 Jan 2009 21:40:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: devin http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/wga-emails-the-playbook-of-the-amptp/#comment-15014 devin Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:21:44 +0000 http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/wga-emails-the-playbook-of-the-amptp/#comment-15014 Like NONE of the guilds past/present negotiators think this strategy is NEW?! New Flash: This strategy is NOT A MYSTERY! Even little kids employ these tactics to perpetually annoy their parents and teachers if they want something bad enough! If you don't have any REAL leverage-generally-you don't win. Like NONE of the guilds past/present negotiators think this strategy is NEW?! New Flash:

This strategy is NOT A MYSTERY!

Even little kids employ these tactics to perpetually annoy their parents and teachers if they want something bad enough!

If you don’t have any REAL leverage-generally-you don’t win.

]]> By: Jessy S. http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/wga-emails-the-playbook-of-the-amptp/#comment-13411 Jessy S. Tue, 04 Dec 2007 18:50:19 +0000 http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/wga-emails-the-playbook-of-the-amptp/#comment-13411 "StrikeTillCBSisBankrupt" Great username, but CBS will not allow the strike to continue until 2009, at least not the shareholders. Besides, I am from North Dakota and North Dakota Senator Byron Dorgan just can't wait to drag the likes of Les Moonves, Jeff Zucker, and others to congressional hearings. This will happen as soon as next week. “StrikeTillCBSisBankrupt”

Great username, but CBS will not allow the strike to continue until 2009, at least not the shareholders. Besides, I am from North Dakota and North Dakota Senator Byron Dorgan just can’t wait to drag the likes of Les Moonves, Jeff Zucker, and others to congressional hearings. This will happen as soon as next week.

]]> By: dave http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/wga-emails-the-playbook-of-the-amptp/#comment-13397 dave Tue, 04 Dec 2007 17:44:21 +0000 http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/wga-emails-the-playbook-of-the-amptp/#comment-13397 robinowitz is on the money: watch for the class action lawsuit by media buyer that's brewing behind the scenes. robinowitz is on the money: watch for the class action lawsuit by media buyer that’s brewing behind the scenes.

]]> By: girl scribe still walking http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/wga-emails-the-playbook-of-the-amptp/#comment-13390 girl scribe still walking Tue, 04 Dec 2007 17:21:21 +0000 http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/wga-emails-the-playbook-of-the-amptp/#comment-13390 Hoping For Resolution - While you attack someone else's naivity, what union negotiating experience do you have? What committee are you on? If you're really hoping for a resolution, your petty attacks are undermining your cause. Hoping For Resolution -

While you attack someone else’s naivity, what union negotiating experience do you have? What committee are you on?

If you’re really hoping for a resolution, your petty attacks are undermining your cause.

]]> By: Abdul Williams http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/wga-emails-the-playbook-of-the-amptp/#comment-13378 Abdul Williams Tue, 04 Dec 2007 15:52:41 +0000 http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/wga-emails-the-playbook-of-the-amptp/#comment-13378 Hoping for a Resolution, What part of the business am I in? I'm a writer, a working writer, and one who appreciates dealing with execs who are straight forward and know what they want. Maybe pussyfooting and mind games are how you do business, but I prefer to meet things head on. And yes, I naively assumed that the AMPTP wouldn't waste time with juvenile tactics while so much is at stake. You don't like my anaolgy? Fine. Why don't you come and discuss this with me face to face? I picket at Sony during the 9-12 shift, on the Culver Gate. I'm typically there everyday. And you'll notice, I didn't choose to use an alias. My name is Abdul Williams. I'm not hiding, and I'm not some pussy writer who is easily initimidated. You want to hurl insults through cyberspace? Or would you rather discuss this like adults, without the childish sniping? Please come to see me and explain to me how "shockingly naive" I am. I'll be waiting. Hoping for a Resolution,

What part of the business am I in? I’m a writer, a working writer, and one who appreciates dealing with execs who are straight forward and know what they want. Maybe pussyfooting and mind games are how you do business, but I prefer to meet things head on. And yes, I naively assumed that the AMPTP wouldn’t waste time with juvenile tactics while so much is at stake.

You don’t like my anaolgy? Fine. Why don’t you come and discuss this with me face to face? I picket at Sony during the 9-12 shift, on the Culver Gate. I’m typically there everyday. And you’ll notice, I didn’t choose to use an alias. My name is Abdul Williams. I’m not hiding, and I’m not some pussy writer who is easily initimidated. You want to hurl insults through cyberspace? Or would you rather discuss this like adults, without the childish sniping?

Please come to see me and explain to me how “shockingly naive” I am. I’ll be waiting.

]]> By: Hoping for a Resolution http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/wga-emails-the-playbook-of-the-amptp/#comment-13328 Hoping for a Resolution Tue, 04 Dec 2007 07:05:11 +0000 http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/wga-emails-the-playbook-of-the-amptp/#comment-13328 New to the WGA in 2004: You are shockingly naive. What part of Hollywood are you in that you don't experience what you call "mind games" and "psychological warfare?" That IS Hollywood in a way. But negotiating is part of life, it's business and not always personal. Doesn't the WGA have any idea what the AMPTP wants (and needs)? I don't believe their goal is "union busting" but I could be wrong. In order to successfully negotiate, you need to know what the other sides' goal is. Btw: AMPTP= India Tech help desk? Worst.Analogy.Ever. New to the WGA in 2004:

You are shockingly naive. What part of Hollywood are you in that you don’t experience what you call “mind games” and “psychological warfare?” That IS Hollywood in a way. But negotiating is part of life, it’s business and not always personal.

Doesn’t the WGA have any idea what the AMPTP wants (and needs)? I don’t believe their goal is “union busting” but I could be wrong. In order to successfully negotiate, you need to know what the other sides’ goal is.

Btw: AMPTP= India Tech help desk? Worst.Analogy.Ever.

]]> By: Another Hyphenate http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/wga-emails-the-playbook-of-the-amptp/#comment-13286 Another Hyphenate Tue, 04 Dec 2007 04:27:33 +0000 http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/wga-emails-the-playbook-of-the-amptp/#comment-13286 To learn more about these tactics, just Google "Union Busting." There are entire companies dedicated to telling 'em how to do it -- the playbook is real. The point is not so much that we can't recognize tactics when we see them. It's that the objective of the tactics is to destroy not only an individual strike, but also to bust a union. So check it out. To learn more about these tactics, just Google “Union Busting.” There are entire companies dedicated to telling ‘em how to do it — the playbook is real. The point is not so much that we can’t recognize tactics when we see them. It’s that the objective of the tactics is to destroy not only an individual strike, but also to bust a union. So check it out.

]]> By: Abdul Williams http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/wga-emails-the-playbook-of-the-amptp/#comment-13277 Abdul Williams Tue, 04 Dec 2007 02:59:37 +0000 http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/wga-emails-the-playbook-of-the-amptp/#comment-13277 To "An Observer": The playbook email might sound childish to you, but as a relatively new member of the Guild (since 2004) I found it pretty revealing. See, this is my first experience with a WGA/AMPTP negotiation, and I guess I naively assumed that with so much money on the line and so many jobs at stake, neither side would waste time on psychological warfare and mind games. I now stand corrected. Apparently all of that is par for the course. So in an odd way, it gives me some comfort to know that the AMPTP is essentially following a script. A writer I was picketing with today made a great comparison: When you have a computer problem and you call the tech support line, often you are connected to a help desk in India somewhere. And no matter what your specific problem is, the person on the other end has a script that they have to read from, complete with pre-determined responses to your questions. Anyone who has gone through this knows what I mean. The point is, if you stay on the line long enough, you'll eventually get your problem addressed. There's no reason to get mad at the Indian tech support guy for wasting your time...he's just following the script he's supposed to follow. So let the AMPTP run through their list of tactics and shenanigans, and when they're finally ready to start negotiating seriously, we'll be waiting. To “An Observer”: The playbook email might sound childish to you, but as a relatively new member of the Guild (since 2004) I found it pretty revealing. See, this is my first experience with a WGA/AMPTP negotiation, and I guess I naively assumed that with so much money on the line and so many jobs at stake, neither side would waste time on psychological warfare and mind games. I now stand corrected. Apparently all of that is par for the course.

So in an odd way, it gives me some comfort to know that the AMPTP is essentially following a script. A writer I was picketing with today made a great comparison: When you have a computer problem and you call the tech support line, often you are connected to a help desk in India somewhere. And no matter what your specific problem is, the person on the other end has a script that they have to read from, complete with pre-determined responses to your questions. Anyone who has gone through this knows what I mean. The point is, if you stay on the line long enough, you’ll eventually get your problem addressed. There’s no reason to get mad at the Indian tech support guy for wasting your time…he’s just following the script he’s supposed to follow.

So let the AMPTP run through their list of tactics and shenanigans, and when they’re finally ready to start negotiating seriously, we’ll be waiting.

]]> By: nice http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/wga-emails-the-playbook-of-the-amptp/#comment-13274 nice Tue, 04 Dec 2007 02:53:46 +0000 http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/wga-emails-the-playbook-of-the-amptp/#comment-13274 At least they have a play book, what does the WGA have? At least they have a play book, what does the WGA have?

]]> By: Excited Writer http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/wga-emails-the-playbook-of-the-amptp/#comment-13266 Excited Writer Tue, 04 Dec 2007 02:13:44 +0000 http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/wga-emails-the-playbook-of-the-amptp/#comment-13266 Any truth to the rumor that Google is close to a deal with the WGA to finance network-quality programming for the Internet, thus eliminating the middleman? Now that's a New Economic Partnership I could support! Any truth to the rumor that Google is close to a deal with the WGA to finance network-quality programming for the Internet, thus eliminating the middleman? Now that’s a New Economic Partnership I could support!

]]> By: Solidarity Sol http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/wga-emails-the-playbook-of-the-amptp/#comment-13265 Solidarity Sol Tue, 04 Dec 2007 02:00:29 +0000 http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/wga-emails-the-playbook-of-the-amptp/#comment-13265 Meet the New Economic Partnership, same as the Old Economic Partnership. The only difference is that the new one has adjusted the writers' reality and made us realize we're in for a long one. And what was the membership's response to this? Despair? Nope, the biggest turnout on the picket line since the whole strike began. I couldn't believe how many people were out there on the line today. Renews my faith in my fellow members. Thanks, everyone! Meet the New Economic Partnership, same as the Old Economic Partnership. The only difference is that the new one has adjusted the writers’ reality and made us realize we’re in for a long one. And what was the membership’s response to this? Despair? Nope, the biggest turnout on the picket line since the whole strike began. I couldn’t believe how many people were out there on the line today. Renews my faith in my fellow members. Thanks, everyone!

]]> By: StrikeTillCBSisBankrupt http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/wga-emails-the-playbook-of-the-amptp/#comment-13264 StrikeTillCBSisBankrupt Tue, 04 Dec 2007 01:55:43 +0000 http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/wga-emails-the-playbook-of-the-amptp/#comment-13264 Frm's post is my favorite amptp shill post yet! He/she is so clever, subtly sneaking in how the amptp is going to let the strike go into 2009. Beautiful! Hey Moonves, that's a great idea! Let us stay out till 2009, that way you'll lose the '07 season, '08, '09, and '10!!! But hey, you've got a bus shelter somewhere in San Bernardino that's raking in twice what you'll lose from TV, right? Also, you'd better watch your "forward looking statements," Les, because some writer/lawyers are already trying to get the SEC riled up about you and the comments you made to the public before the strike. The SEC might not do anything under Presidnent Bush and Christopher Cox, but if you let it roll into 2009, then here come the Hillaryites and you could be the next Jeffrey Skilling. Frm’s post is my favorite amptp shill post yet! He/she is so clever, subtly sneaking in how the amptp is going to let the strike go into 2009. Beautiful! Hey Moonves, that’s a great idea! Let us stay out till 2009, that way you’ll lose the ‘07 season, ‘08, ‘09, and ‘10!!! But hey, you’ve got a bus shelter somewhere in San Bernardino that’s raking in twice what you’ll lose from TV, right? Also, you’d better watch your “forward looking statements,” Les, because some writer/lawyers are already trying to get the SEC riled up about you and the comments you made to the public before the strike. The SEC might not do anything under Presidnent Bush and Christopher Cox, but if you let it roll into 2009, then here come the Hillaryites and you could be the next Jeffrey Skilling.

]]> By: what's the best deal you can make this week http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/wga-emails-the-playbook-of-the-amptp/#comment-13262 what's the best deal you can make this week Tue, 04 Dec 2007 01:52:52 +0000 http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/wga-emails-the-playbook-of-the-amptp/#comment-13262 The Guild playbook is wave sticks for 6 months. Take crappy deal. The Guild playbook is wave sticks for 6 months. Take crappy deal.

]]> By: Mike http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/wga-emails-the-playbook-of-the-amptp/#comment-13261 Mike Tue, 04 Dec 2007 01:46:23 +0000 http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/wga-emails-the-playbook-of-the-amptp/#comment-13261 Man, I hope someone isn't writing down all the half-joking things I say about *my* job when I get a little tipsy at a dinner party. Man, I hope someone isn’t writing down all the half-joking things I say about *my* job when I get a little tipsy at a dinner party.

]]> By: anotherWGAmember http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/wga-emails-the-playbook-of-the-amptp/#comment-13260 anotherWGAmember Tue, 04 Dec 2007 01:43:28 +0000 http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/wga-emails-the-playbook-of-the-amptp/#comment-13260 The WGA should print these notes on cards and hand them out to every member. There should be placards with these tactics at every strike picketline. And get this onto the web virally with actors who matter to the public. We should call the media blitz the "Shame on You" scenario. The WGA should print these notes on cards and hand them out to every member. There should be placards with these tactics at every strike picketline. And get this onto the web virally with actors who matter to the public. We should call the media blitz the “Shame on You” scenario.

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