And it surprises me that an Eagle Scout would honestly argue that this was very little more than summer camp. I guess people see what they want. Oh well.

I was unaware they were shipping children to parts unknown to cause harm and/or malice. Funny stuff that is… as I’m sure that’s NOT what they did.

If I’m not mistaken, CBS actually *DID* follow the laws. Imagine that. Those crazy studios!

Children were “separated” from their parents in no different way than you were “separated” from yours when you went to camp. They left for summer camp.

The problem here is that someone’s looking for a conspiracy to stuff that’s just frankly not there. There’s no need to prove how smart I am to someone who can’t prove the methods used for production.

Again, you’re probably right, they probably only kept the kids alive just so they wouldn’t have huge lawsuits on their hands. Their enjoyment of the time they spent there… all forced and manipulated to “get the shot.” Thanks for the enlightenment.

Oh, and lastly, I will agree… Summer camp is summer camp, tv shows are tv shows, adults are adults, kids are kids, phones are phones, computers are computers, offices are offices… just because one speaks, doesn’t mean he has much to add.

Thanks for your insightful link of those evil people taking advantage of those poor kids.

And don’t sweat about responding. I think I’m better without it.

Have a good night everyone! Drive safe and watch out for those scary people out there!

I am an Eagle Scout actually. I would go to Philmont ranch every summer. And something odd about that, they didn’t videotape me 24/7 at Philmont scout ranch. That is because the BSA doesn’t exploit its members. Now if they did, that would be exploitive. Like what CBS has done.

You still need to refute my original argument. I’m still waiting. My guess is I will wait forever, because you are not capable: possibly not trustworthy, loyal, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean, or reverent.

Summer camp is summer camp. Television shows are television shows. Adults are adults, and children are children. If you employ children on a television show, you need to follow the laws. It is irrelevant whether or not anyone gets hurt because the laws are in place for the children’s welfare. The laws are in place to keep people from exploiting children.

http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/not_guilty/twilight_zone/2.html

Your red herring argument about Survivor is irrelevant because Survivor is a television show cast with adults.

You said the children weren’t separated from their parents, but they were.

I am waiting for you to write something honest or well thought out, but I think I’m going to give up on that.

Prove you are smart to me, and I might respond.

I don’t work for CBS directly or indirectly. It’s funny that because I don’t support your arguments, I would obviously need to be part of studio. GO CBS!

Summer camp is what this was for these kids. Have you ever been to one? I grew up in Boy Scouts so I’ve been to many. I’d like to think if you had, you’d have a clearer picture of this.

So to recap, minor injuries, monitored children, parents who signed their kids to summer camp, a studio that took advantage of it, camp on tv…. who could be this lucky? I know… the kids who had a blast out there.

*yawn*

Something just occurred to me.

You wrote; “The kids weren’t separated from their parents.” In fact, they were separated from their parents.

You also wrote; “They chose (with their parents help I might add) to go to summer camp.” “Summer Camp” is the same classification the producers used to get around New Mexico’s lax child labor laws. It is so strange that you used the exact same description.

Do you work either directly or indirectly for CBS, Josh?

We know there weren’t welfare supervisors because they chose to do it outside the circle in a state where they aren’t required. Why would a company hire someone they weren’t required to hire? That would be stupid, like ending a missive with “yawn”.

I still stand by my argument that there the same material can be inspirational to watch and be exploitive in the way it way produced. If you want to refute that argument, go ahead. If you have nothing new to add, don’t start attacking me rather than my argument. Just admit that you have nothing new to add.

Remember in Survivor when someone got hurt? It took about 4 minutes to get a helicopter to the location to get the person the care they needed. Should we assume anything less here?

The kids weren’t separated from their parents. They chose (with their parents help I might add) to go to summer camp.

Kids are injured all the time at camp. That’s part of being a kid. This would be a different story if a kid was stabbed and left for dead or crushed, but they weren’t. They were looked after. It shouldn’t be assumed that the town wasn’t created with safety in mind.

*yawn*

There is also a difference between an organization that calls itself The Alliance for Children’s Rights and the Child Labor Study of Human Rights Watch. One is a Los Angeles based organization largely financed by donations from media companies and entertainment law firms, and the other is an international organization that investigates the abuses of human rights around the world. CBS, her employer, sponsors the dinner at which Nina Tassler is being honored. In other words, CBS bought the little trophy, or plaque, or medal that she will be given as well as the prime rib that will be served. If you can afford to sponsor a $5000 table, I’m sure listening to her acceptance speech will be inspirational, but the production that goes on behind it is far less inspirational.

This is tired news of a righteous few who want to find fresh ways to attack “Moguls” for going after those “victim” parents. This is severely one sided and not really news reporting as much as sensationalist reporting.

Thanks!

According to published reports…

“The production brought forty children to an abandoned New Mexico ghost town for more than a month. In order to get around the logistical and legal problems of complying with the juvenile labor requirements that govern underage performers, the production designated its activities as a “summer camp.”

This was a misrepresentation; a lie. The kids performed on camera seven days a week, for as much as 14 hours a day.”

I also thought the show was incredibly inspiring. And of the 40 or so that were there, 3 of them chose to leave the show. I guess the kids themselves didn’t think conditions were so bad.

I for one am hoping it comes back for a second season.

This show was inspiring and showed how much a group of kids can accomplish when working together.