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	<title>Comments on: Primetime Pilot Panic: Updated Hot List</title>
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		<title>By: Amber</title>
		<link>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/primetime-pilot-panic-the-hot-shows/#comment-60516</link>
		<dc:creator>Amber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 09:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>robert green - what a tit!</description>
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		<title>By: Jenny</title>
		<link>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/primetime-pilot-panic-the-hot-shows/#comment-59592</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 14:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kaytie, I wasn't surprised by the "idiots on websites" line. It's a sign of the disrespect the PTB in Hollywood have for the audience. We're just supposed to be non-thinking dupes who will swallow anything. Frankly, it makes sense to me now why so many in America feel Hollywood is disconnected from reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kaytie, I wasn&#8217;t surprised by the &#8220;idiots on websites&#8221; line. It&#8217;s a sign of the disrespect the PTB in Hollywood have for the audience. We&#8217;re just supposed to be non-thinking dupes who will swallow anything. Frankly, it makes sense to me now why so many in America feel Hollywood is disconnected from reality.</p>
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		<title>By: RBW</title>
		<link>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/primetime-pilot-panic-the-hot-shows/#comment-59466</link>
		<dc:creator>RBW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 03:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A personal anecdote about how one "respectfully" goes about creating an American version of a British series: 

For several years, I was an Executive Producer and the principal director of a popular comedy series on HBO. (I left after the fifth season to direct a movie in England.) While there, I discovered the brilliant British series, "Peep Show." On one of my trips back to the states, I started  talking about how much I loved the series. The owners of the Brit series (who would be the equivalent of Granada, in the case of "Spaced") got very excited about my creating an American version of "Peep Show."

Here was the first thing out of my mouth during that first meeting: "I would only attempt to do this if I have the full blessing and cooperation of the the original creators." (Sam Bain and Jesse Armstrong.) I went on to say that if, for any reason, they weren't comfortable with my doing it, I had no intention of going forward. Furthermore, I'd want them to be available to consult during the development phase, to look at my writing while in progress, and to give me any notes they wanted.

For that matter, I also said that I had to think hard about whether I felt I could even bring something new to a series that was already perfect. In other words, there had to be a legitimate creative reason to even attempt this.

Before things went any further, I immediately contacted Bain &#38; Armstrong who were thrilled that I wanted to do this (they were fans of my work on the HBO series) and were happy to be involved in whatever capacity I wanted. Only after a few encouraging conversations with them did I agree to take on the project.

I might also add that I told the network I felt it was equally important to find exactly the right actors to cast as the American counterparts to Robert Webb and David Mitchell -- a very tall order. I made it clear that no matter how excited everyone might be about the finished script, if I felt the casting was compromised at all, again, I would not proceed.

Although the series did eventually hit a roadblock, I remain friendly with Bain, Armstrong, Mitchell, and Webb (and for that matter Olivia Coleman and Matt King).

THAT, Mr. Green and Mr. McG, is how you show respect for the creators of a series whose shoulders you are trying to climb onto, once they've done all the heavy lifting.

By the way, I should add that my "Peep Show" pilot was not the awful one that Fox attempted a couple of years earlier. Why did that first attempt go so wrong? Could it have been because the writers/producers of the remake had no contact whatsoever with the British creators?

Cheers,
-RBW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A personal anecdote about how one &#8220;respectfully&#8221; goes about creating an American version of a British series: </p>
<p>For several years, I was an Executive Producer and the principal director of a popular comedy series on HBO. (I left after the fifth season to direct a movie in England.) While there, I discovered the brilliant British series, &#8220;Peep Show.&#8221; On one of my trips back to the states, I started  talking about how much I loved the series. The owners of the Brit series (who would be the equivalent of Granada, in the case of &#8220;Spaced&#8221;) got very excited about my creating an American version of &#8220;Peep Show.&#8221;</p>
<p>Here was the first thing out of my mouth during that first meeting: &#8220;I would only attempt to do this if I have the full blessing and cooperation of the the original creators.&#8221; (Sam Bain and Jesse Armstrong.) I went on to say that if, for any reason, they weren&#8217;t comfortable with my doing it, I had no intention of going forward. Furthermore, I&#8217;d want them to be available to consult during the development phase, to look at my writing while in progress, and to give me any notes they wanted.</p>
<p>For that matter, I also said that I had to think hard about whether I felt I could even bring something new to a series that was already perfect. In other words, there had to be a legitimate creative reason to even attempt this.</p>
<p>Before things went any further, I immediately contacted Bain &amp; Armstrong who were thrilled that I wanted to do this (they were fans of my work on the HBO series) and were happy to be involved in whatever capacity I wanted. Only after a few encouraging conversations with them did I agree to take on the project.</p>
<p>I might also add that I told the network I felt it was equally important to find exactly the right actors to cast as the American counterparts to Robert Webb and David Mitchell &#8212; a very tall order. I made it clear that no matter how excited everyone might be about the finished script, if I felt the casting was compromised at all, again, I would not proceed.</p>
<p>Although the series did eventually hit a roadblock, I remain friendly with Bain, Armstrong, Mitchell, and Webb (and for that matter Olivia Coleman and Matt King).</p>
<p>THAT, Mr. Green and Mr. McG, is how you show respect for the creators of a series whose shoulders you are trying to climb onto, once they&#8217;ve done all the heavy lifting.</p>
<p>By the way, I should add that my &#8220;Peep Show&#8221; pilot was not the awful one that Fox attempted a couple of years earlier. Why did that first attempt go so wrong? Could it have been because the writers/producers of the remake had no contact whatsoever with the British creators?</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
-RBW</p>
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		<title>By: Mares</title>
		<link>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/primetime-pilot-panic-the-hot-shows/#comment-59392</link>
		<dc:creator>Mares</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 00:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too have to commend Simon, Edgar and Jessica for their tolerance and taking the high road.. I on the other hand, a long time and loyal fan am less willing. I feel personally offended that no effort was made to reach out to the people who were the brains and talent behind Spaced! and so many other brilliant works.

As a fan, I have seen too many of Hollywood's attempts to recreate fabulous British series.. they don't get them, don't get why they were popular there, or developed a loyal following on this side of the pond... and the end result tanks. The only exception to the rule has been The Office, and that was because the American company behind it reached out to Gervais and Merchant.

If anyone wants to point fingers, point them at fans like myself. We have collectively been incensed about this injustice and firmly committed to not watching the sad effort that will result. 

Here's a hint, next time there's a sensational hit from Britain, rather than ripping it off, why not buy the series to broadcast the original episodes on US tv?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too have to commend Simon, Edgar and Jessica for their tolerance and taking the high road.. I on the other hand, a long time and loyal fan am less willing. I feel personally offended that no effort was made to reach out to the people who were the brains and talent behind Spaced! and so many other brilliant works.</p>
<p>As a fan, I have seen too many of Hollywood&#8217;s attempts to recreate fabulous British series.. they don&#8217;t get them, don&#8217;t get why they were popular there, or developed a loyal following on this side of the pond&#8230; and the end result tanks. The only exception to the rule has been The Office, and that was because the American company behind it reached out to Gervais and Merchant.</p>
<p>If anyone wants to point fingers, point them at fans like myself. We have collectively been incensed about this injustice and firmly committed to not watching the sad effort that will result. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a hint, next time there&#8217;s a sensational hit from Britain, rather than ripping it off, why not buy the series to broadcast the original episodes on US tv?</p>
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		<title>By: Kaytie</title>
		<link>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/primetime-pilot-panic-the-hot-shows/#comment-59375</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaytie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 23:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to commend Simon, Jessica, and Edgar, for being as polite and well spoken as they have been. Especially after the Robert Green comment. I don't think that I would have been able to bite my tongue hard enough to avoid a rant fulled with filthy language. To be honest, I find it appalling that he would even make a comment like that. Especially in such a public forum. I sincerely hope that if it is truly Robert Green from Granada USA, he is sacked.

And I must say that, again if this is in fact really Mr. Green, he is doing a poor job indeed of selling the project and defending his decision. To openly spit on the fan base of the show with such a crude attack is baffling.

And as one of the "idiots on websites" and probably part of their intended target demographic, I say to them... F*ck off you bloody wankers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to commend Simon, Jessica, and Edgar, for being as polite and well spoken as they have been. Especially after the Robert Green comment. I don&#8217;t think that I would have been able to bite my tongue hard enough to avoid a rant fulled with filthy language. To be honest, I find it appalling that he would even make a comment like that. Especially in such a public forum. I sincerely hope that if it is truly Robert Green from Granada USA, he is sacked.</p>
<p>And I must say that, again if this is in fact really Mr. Green, he is doing a poor job indeed of selling the project and defending his decision. To openly spit on the fan base of the show with such a crude attack is baffling.</p>
<p>And as one of the &#8220;idiots on websites&#8221; and probably part of their intended target demographic, I say to them&#8230; F*ck off you bloody wankers!</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob R.</title>
		<link>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/primetime-pilot-panic-the-hot-shows/#comment-59363</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 22:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sorry to continue giving you bad news Robert Green but first and foremost like everyone else said, if you care so much about the show and reached out to its creators why in gods name did your forget that Jessica Stevenson (Hynes) is a co-writer for the whole series. If you think you can come into the world and insult people for being passionate about something they love, you sir are what is wrong with the world today. Spaced means so much to me and has shaped my teenage to young adult years. It has been my favorite show since it came out and i am an American living in Greeley, Colorado. I am far from being a UK fan but i have loved and cherished this series and went out of my way to get a region free dvd player so i could get the UK set. I am just so angered by this and how blatantly obvious it is that you guys care for the show but not for who made it. If you love the show so much you would know that Jessica was a co-writer and you would know how angry the fan base would get and how offended Simon and Edgar would get. I'm not calling you dumb or immature but i am sickened at what your studio has done and how you are trying to place the blame on the original creators. So you can go ahead and make your show but i can guarantee that it will fail and that i will be laughing at you the whole way through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sorry to continue giving you bad news Robert Green but first and foremost like everyone else said, if you care so much about the show and reached out to its creators why in gods name did your forget that Jessica Stevenson (Hynes) is a co-writer for the whole series. If you think you can come into the world and insult people for being passionate about something they love, you sir are what is wrong with the world today. Spaced means so much to me and has shaped my teenage to young adult years. It has been my favorite show since it came out and i am an American living in Greeley, Colorado. I am far from being a UK fan but i have loved and cherished this series and went out of my way to get a region free dvd player so i could get the UK set. I am just so angered by this and how blatantly obvious it is that you guys care for the show but not for who made it. If you love the show so much you would know that Jessica was a co-writer and you would know how angry the fan base would get and how offended Simon and Edgar would get. I&#8217;m not calling you dumb or immature but i am sickened at what your studio has done and how you are trying to place the blame on the original creators. So you can go ahead and make your show but i can guarantee that it will fail and that i will be laughing at you the whole way through.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca M.</title>
		<link>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/primetime-pilot-panic-the-hot-shows/#comment-59259</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebecca M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 15:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;that idiots on websites swallow that load without even having to wipe their chins surprises me not at all.&lt;/i&gt;

The fact that you claim to have nothing but respect for your project's original creators while simultaneously insulting them and your potential audience doesn't surprise us either. Though if does make me wonder who the hell taught you about PR.

And when you're not insulting people you're just plain ignoring them - again, why no mention of Jessica Stevenson?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>that idiots on websites swallow that load without even having to wipe their chins surprises me not at all.</i></p>
<p>The fact that you claim to have nothing but respect for your project&#8217;s original creators while simultaneously insulting them and your potential audience doesn&#8217;t surprise us either. Though if does make me wonder who the hell taught you about PR.</p>
<p>And when you&#8217;re not insulting people you&#8217;re just plain ignoring them - again, why no mention of Jessica Stevenson?</p>
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		<title>By: rachel</title>
		<link>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/primetime-pilot-panic-the-hot-shows/#comment-59257</link>
		<dc:creator>rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 15:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re:spaced...i would say that the wiped their own chins might have been a reference to spaced episode one when daisy wipes her chin when she has the sharing with tim brainwave, except that i doubt they have watched it and obviously have no idea who jessica stevenson is and that she co-wrote it.
bad enough to 'adapt' (ie nick) someones ideas without then moaning that they aren't over the moon about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re:spaced&#8230;i would say that the wiped their own chins might have been a reference to spaced episode one when daisy wipes her chin when she has the sharing with tim brainwave, except that i doubt they have watched it and obviously have no idea who jessica stevenson is and that she co-wrote it.<br />
bad enough to &#8216;adapt&#8217; (ie nick) someones ideas without then moaning that they aren&#8217;t over the moon about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe the Relentless</title>
		<link>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/primetime-pilot-panic-the-hot-shows/#comment-59203</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe the Relentless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 07:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How does Spaced being a "part of their past they don't want to visit" even factor in?  Maybe it's because they're irritated that someone swiped their brainchild and now threatens to douse it with vinegar.  Who wouldn't badmouth over that?  Being a writer myself, I can sympathize. "Rummage through my credit cards if you want, but touch my thumb drive and I will break your neck."  This is pretty much my attitude.  Maybe my creations aren't anything divine or splendid, but they are my creations all the same.  

If you ever want to know what it's like for someone to take your creation and turn into a beast you never intedned for, just ask Akira Toriyama about Dragonball.    I'm sure he'll hate you for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does Spaced being a &#8220;part of their past they don&#8217;t want to visit&#8221; even factor in?  Maybe it&#8217;s because they&#8217;re irritated that someone swiped their brainchild and now threatens to douse it with vinegar.  Who wouldn&#8217;t badmouth over that?  Being a writer myself, I can sympathize. &#8220;Rummage through my credit cards if you want, but touch my thumb drive and I will break your neck.&#8221;  This is pretty much my attitude.  Maybe my creations aren&#8217;t anything divine or splendid, but they are my creations all the same.  </p>
<p>If you ever want to know what it&#8217;s like for someone to take your creation and turn into a beast you never intedned for, just ask Akira Toriyama about Dragonball.    I&#8217;m sure he&#8217;ll hate you for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
		<link>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/primetime-pilot-panic-the-hot-shows/#comment-59177</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 03:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/primetime-pilot-panic-the-hot-shows/#comment-59177</guid>
		<description>fyi.  the spaced info is totally wrong and one sided.
how about checking both sides of the story before printing?
Edgar and Simon have a very different version than this.  Namely they were not reached out to until well into the production process.
We are not idiots.  We are free thinkers who don't appreciate being spoon fed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fyi.  the spaced info is totally wrong and one sided.<br />
how about checking both sides of the story before printing?<br />
Edgar and Simon have a very different version than this.  Namely they were not reached out to until well into the production process.<br />
We are not idiots.  We are free thinkers who don&#8217;t appreciate being spoon fed.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah, CA</title>
		<link>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/primetime-pilot-panic-the-hot-shows/#comment-59070</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah, CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 18:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Edgar Wright's MySpace blog states that nobody 'reached out' until well after production of the remake had started. In fact not until after he, Pegg and Stevenson had released statements to their fans and a particularly vociferous "website idiot" had complained about McSpaced on Aint It Cool News, a site McG is going to need onside if he is to take on the Terminator franchise.

Green's comments are akin to taking a shit on someone's doorstep, then getting all hurt and aggressive because the owner of the house not only complains but also doesn't help clean up the mess. The McSpaced camp has no right to act hard done by. They fucked up and the original creators of the show have every right to feel put out. It's amazing that Granada and McG are now positioning themselves as the victims. I say all this with a very clean chin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Edgar Wright&#8217;s MySpace blog states that nobody &#8216;reached out&#8217; until well after production of the remake had started. In fact not until after he, Pegg and Stevenson had released statements to their fans and a particularly vociferous &#8220;website idiot&#8221; had complained about McSpaced on Aint It Cool News, a site McG is going to need onside if he is to take on the Terminator franchise.</p>
<p>Green&#8217;s comments are akin to taking a shit on someone&#8217;s doorstep, then getting all hurt and aggressive because the owner of the house not only complains but also doesn&#8217;t help clean up the mess. The McSpaced camp has no right to act hard done by. They fucked up and the original creators of the show have every right to feel put out. It&#8217;s amazing that Granada and McG are now positioning themselves as the victims. I say all this with a very clean chin.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/primetime-pilot-panic-the-hot-shows/#comment-59034</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 15:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"the truth is simple and two-fold: simon and edgar feel that spaced is a part of their past that they didn’t want to revisit (a completely reasonable position on their part). but they didn’t control the rights, Granada did. and it wasn’t within their control, therefore, to tell granada what to do. it sucks, but their original deal sucked. if one wants to make the argument i shouldn’t have sold it, i get that, but ultimately i made a judgment call."

You're really on the ball. Nice to see you only included *one* of the writers of the show in this statement - how convenient to forget Jessica Stevenson, co-writer and co-star, who sadly did not get enough Hollywood buzz recently to be included in your press releases about the remake of the show and has been subsequently ignored by you, McG and everyone involved with the project.
Appalling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the truth is simple and two-fold: simon and edgar feel that spaced is a part of their past that they didn’t want to revisit (a completely reasonable position on their part). but they didn’t control the rights, Granada did. and it wasn’t within their control, therefore, to tell granada what to do. it sucks, but their original deal sucked. if one wants to make the argument i shouldn’t have sold it, i get that, but ultimately i made a judgment call.&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re really on the ball. Nice to see you only included *one* of the writers of the show in this statement - how convenient to forget Jessica Stevenson, co-writer and co-star, who sadly did not get enough Hollywood buzz recently to be included in your press releases about the remake of the show and has been subsequently ignored by you, McG and everyone involved with the project.<br />
Appalling.</p>
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		<title>By: Kimberley Powell</title>
		<link>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/primetime-pilot-panic-the-hot-shows/#comment-59026</link>
		<dc:creator>Kimberley Powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 15:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;that idiots on websites swallow that load without even having to wipe their chins surprises me not at all.&lt;/i&gt;

Hey, Robert, comments like that are not going to win over us "idiots".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>that idiots on websites swallow that load without even having to wipe their chins surprises me not at all.</i></p>
<p>Hey, Robert, comments like that are not going to win over us &#8220;idiots&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/primetime-pilot-panic-the-hot-shows/#comment-58983</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 10:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McG, is that you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McG, is that you?</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/primetime-pilot-panic-the-hot-shows/#comment-57361</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 06:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"The quotes below are from sources in the know..."
"It's Joss Whedon..."

I don't appreciate your ruse, ma'am.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The quotes below are from sources in the know&#8230;&#8221;<br />
&#8220;It&#8217;s Joss Whedon&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t appreciate your ruse, ma&#8217;am.</p>
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