Some of you writers need to start thinking of yourselves more as a PART of the process of film/television making and not the brains behind the whole mess– or when you come back to work we (the others of us who collaborate in the process of production) will start throwing things at you.

Sure, the writing may well be where it all starts, but without us (I am a director of photography, by the way) your work is just words on a page. Get off your high horse before you’re knocked off.

“If I was an actor and this was my first nomination, I would be angry at the WGA.”

“”If this was your first nom you would owe the whole thing to your writers/showrunner/creator.
That’s the whole point. “”

Wow, and this is the kind of arrogance that turns off the general public. So an up and coming actor should thank thier lucky stars that a writer put an award for thier performance in thier hands?

You have not only cheapened award shows, but have managed to cheapen the performance of every actor that was up for an award for thier performance. I think you very much missed Matt O’Neil’s point.

Second: Interested Observer said:

“I’m truly afraid all these giddy little sideshows are about making us feel good while we don’t notice the AMPTP’s master strategy: putting some back to work while others walk the line”

You really think this is the AMPTP’s master strategy? You’re either a shill for Chris Lehane or you’re functionally retarded. My money is on the former.

The writing is where it all starts.”

…..and ends, unless you have the rest of the creative team to deliver the goods. Your script and $1.50 buys you a cup of coffee, Period.
I believe in what the wga is trying to accomplish, but some of its members have an inflated opinion of themselves. Those scripts didn’t get written in a vacuum. and they didn’t miraculously appear on the screen. Control your ego, please.
Without those Actors,producers and directors (and the rest of the BTL team) to give meaning to your words, you’ve just got a short story with no financial outlet.

Your an important part of the team, but it is a team effort. Without you, there’s nothing. Without them, your nothing.

They haven’t been begging us to make a deal with DCP because they just love Hollywood glamour, it’s because they’re hurting in other areas and would love this cash. If the show goes ahead that’s $10 million more they have to drag this out. Why in the hell would we possibly go along with that?

And for the record, if SAG were on strike and I were nominated for a Golden Globe, I’d be angry. Angry at the publicists and studio flaks who’d be urging me to cross a picket line to make some stupid speech when I’d rather be out on the picket line showing my support to the community on what really matters. I’m not a two-year-old, and a little statue for me is not more important the livelihood of others. Being in the in crowd and getting tickets to the InStyle party is awesome…I’ll take doing the right thing and being able to look at myself in the mirror.

If they want this so bad, the second after Zucker drops his hardline stance and signs a reasonable deal that will hugely benefit his network, it’s on, late night’s on, primetime will shortly follow, it’s not rocket science.

First, let me say it for you: troll, shill.

But damn, comments like those make my blood boil. I think we might ought to give a little credit to the actor who makes a writer’s words come alive. In fact, how many times have I heard a writer thank actors, directors, hey, God forgive me but even the company that made the film possible by fronting the money.

This strike will never be settled as long as both sides think that what they bring to the table is all that it takes.

I want the writers to receive their fair share and I certainly think it should be more than it is now but, damn, get over yourselves. Try reading your script aloud on YouTube and see how much revenue you generate.

Once again, let me say it for you: troll, shill.

The notion that the WGA wanted to hurt the studios by denying them publicity is bull, because as long as the winners are announced, there will be publicity. Score one for NBC and one for the Alliance.

Will no Globes and the WGA shutting down a big show bring the Alliance back to the table? No. And the WGA is stupid to think that it will. What’s their incentive? They do not care about us below-the-line people, either. So the ego contest continues.

Before you ask, yes the unions (all three) should get a piece of the new media, but what are we below-the-line people (who don’t see any residuals) supposed to do while we wait for them to get their piece of the pie? We can’t go fi-core. While some are lucky to make enough money, which they hopefully saved, what about the newbies who are counting on their daily freelance job to make ends meet?

“If I was an actor and this was my first nomination, I would be angry at the WGA.”

If this was your first nom you would owe the whole thing to your writers/showrunner/creator.
That’s the whole point.

The writing is where it all starts.

Who gives a shit if some agent is upset?
They don’t make this stuff, we do.

And NBC isn’t PBS or C-SPAN broadcasting the Globes for the public good. They stand to make millions in ad dollars and web tie-ins.

Should the WGA help the poor suffering network? SAG is backing this stance because we are in this together. It’s all of our monies we are fighting for now.

comment by shelly

Copyright that, Shelly! (could you be in trouble? Pencils down & all that?)
Brilliant! That needs to be a T-Shirt!

Sorry, AMPTP!
To quote Chris Kelly,
“By sorry I mean, ‘HA HA, FUCK YOU!’”