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	<title>Comments on: Joel Silver And Warners Say He's Staying: "I Can't Stop The Slings &#038; Arrows"</title>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
		<link>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/joel-silver/#comment-65039</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 19:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, quite funny to see people only interested in the business aspect of cinema discussing what "bad" films this guy has produced. Stick with the business aspect, we'll take care of the artistic and creative side, ok?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, quite funny to see people only interested in the business aspect of cinema discussing what &#8220;bad&#8221; films this guy has produced. Stick with the business aspect, we&#8217;ll take care of the artistic and creative side, ok?</p>
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		<title>By: WBknower</title>
		<link>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/joel-silver/#comment-64787</link>
		<dc:creator>WBknower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 23:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/joel-silver/#comment-64787</guid>
		<description>Great post Metal Water. I feel exactly the same way about the myopic thought process of this movie. In the series, cars exploded during the opening song. Snake Oiler was critically hurt (might have been killed) when they raced along the canyons in one episode. It was a dark, violent show. Some earlier scripts of Speed from 10 years ago and more were darker. This movie has been floating around for 15 years. But that was when movie studios weren't corporations hoping to make a new franchise first and a solid movie second. Even the cross promotion was idiotic. How do you market Yokahama tires and petroleum companies when the target audience is 5 years away from driving?  Couple that with a movie that looks like a "Lite Brite" that had too much LSD and you get what we have. 
A mess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Metal Water. I feel exactly the same way about the myopic thought process of this movie. In the series, cars exploded during the opening song. Snake Oiler was critically hurt (might have been killed) when they raced along the canyons in one episode. It was a dark, violent show. Some earlier scripts of Speed from 10 years ago and more were darker. This movie has been floating around for 15 years. But that was when movie studios weren&#8217;t corporations hoping to make a new franchise first and a solid movie second. Even the cross promotion was idiotic. How do you market Yokahama tires and petroleum companies when the target audience is 5 years away from driving?  Couple that with a movie that looks like a &#8220;Lite Brite&#8221; that had too much LSD and you get what we have.<br />
A mess.</p>
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		<title>By: Metal Water</title>
		<link>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/joel-silver/#comment-64492</link>
		<dc:creator>Metal Water</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 23:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/joel-silver/#comment-64492</guid>
		<description>Amendment 2 (Thanks Nikki):

This isn't about different generations, this is about the look and execution therein of this movie. The Matrix had no awaiting fan base before it was released...and wasn't an adaption of a pre-existing commercially known property, at least one that Joel Silver and the Wachowski Siblings will admit to. 

No...Speed Racer as adapted by the Wachowskis was designed to appeal to little boys under the age of 12 years old...and they, Warner, pulled in that very narrow audience, but just that audience. Teenage boys, girls...Twenty Somethings and older audiences were not interested...as you don't take your date to see such a immature adaption of said material. 


However, unlike the movie, the original Speed Racer, an anime (Japanese cartoon), was violent, people got killed, and there was a James Bond esthetic of international intrigue...where Speed used a machine gun to kill advisaries in one of the episodes. This was a world populated with assassins, sociopaths, and for the first time in animation television, it had a story arc--one that featured a long lost brother who left home because of conflicts with his overbearing father...and a physical confrontation. Faking his own death after a car crash, Rex Racer disappeared, years later re-emerging as Racer X. Now an international agent and assassin, he uses his considerable racing skills to enter car races that have been infultrated by conspirators who threaten the security of the entire free world. 

With his brother Speed, often, and accidentally, in the way of the crossfire...and sometimes the focus of it, Racer X acts as Speed's avenging guardian angel...one whom his younger brother, unaware of their relation, views as a villain and anything but a friend...much to the intentional efforts of Racer X. 

The story arc ends with a scene guaranteed to make anyone cry. Reminding one of the Darth Vader/Luke I am your Father scene, 13 years before it occured. The scene unfolds as Speed is hit with the revelation that Racer X is his brother. Unsure he asks/demands the truth...this after a mission where he and his benefactor bring down a conspiracy together. His opinion now changed, he suddenly views Racer X as a maven. Approaching him, Speed, expecting to be embraced, is instead sucker punched by the mysterious Racer X, who never bothers to answer his question.

Later, found by his loved ones, abandoned on the side of a mountainous road, Speed awakens in tears crying out--sobbing, for his brother Rex. The End!!!

That was a movie worth making, but the Wachowskis and Joel Silver dumbed it down for toy sales, and altered the story and some of the characters, Sparkie who was 16 is now a 45 year old Aussie??? Hit with these questionable changes, the movie's direction greatly limited its audience appeal. A film that should have been more adult...with flatter more real world colors, was turned into a Jason Pollack painting as cyphered through a Skittles commercial and the meaningless Spy Kids films. That was enough to turn-off audiences world wide!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amendment 2 (Thanks Nikki):</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t about different generations, this is about the look and execution therein of this movie. The Matrix had no awaiting fan base before it was released&#8230;and wasn&#8217;t an adaption of a pre-existing commercially known property, at least one that Joel Silver and the Wachowski Siblings will admit to. </p>
<p>No&#8230;Speed Racer as adapted by the Wachowskis was designed to appeal to little boys under the age of 12 years old&#8230;and they, Warner, pulled in that very narrow audience, but just that audience. Teenage boys, girls&#8230;Twenty Somethings and older audiences were not interested&#8230;as you don&#8217;t take your date to see such a immature adaption of said material. </p>
<p>However, unlike the movie, the original Speed Racer, an anime (Japanese cartoon), was violent, people got killed, and there was a James Bond esthetic of international intrigue&#8230;where Speed used a machine gun to kill advisaries in one of the episodes. This was a world populated with assassins, sociopaths, and for the first time in animation television, it had a story arc&#8211;one that featured a long lost brother who left home because of conflicts with his overbearing father&#8230;and a physical confrontation. Faking his own death after a car crash, Rex Racer disappeared, years later re-emerging as Racer X. Now an international agent and assassin, he uses his considerable racing skills to enter car races that have been infultrated by conspirators who threaten the security of the entire free world. </p>
<p>With his brother Speed, often, and accidentally, in the way of the crossfire&#8230;and sometimes the focus of it, Racer X acts as Speed&#8217;s avenging guardian angel&#8230;one whom his younger brother, unaware of their relation, views as a villain and anything but a friend&#8230;much to the intentional efforts of Racer X. </p>
<p>The story arc ends with a scene guaranteed to make anyone cry. Reminding one of the Darth Vader/Luke I am your Father scene, 13 years before it occured. The scene unfolds as Speed is hit with the revelation that Racer X is his brother. Unsure he asks/demands the truth&#8230;this after a mission where he and his benefactor bring down a conspiracy together. His opinion now changed, he suddenly views Racer X as a maven. Approaching him, Speed, expecting to be embraced, is instead sucker punched by the mysterious Racer X, who never bothers to answer his question.</p>
<p>Later, found by his loved ones, abandoned on the side of a mountainous road, Speed awakens in tears crying out&#8211;sobbing, for his brother Rex. The End!!!</p>
<p>That was a movie worth making, but the Wachowskis and Joel Silver dumbed it down for toy sales, and altered the story and some of the characters, Sparkie who was 16 is now a 45 year old Aussie??? Hit with these questionable changes, the movie&#8217;s direction greatly limited its audience appeal. A film that should have been more adult&#8230;with flatter more real world colors, was turned into a Jason Pollack painting as cyphered through a Skittles commercial and the meaningless Spy Kids films. That was enough to turn-off audiences world wide!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/joel-silver/#comment-64482</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 22:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This isn't about different generations, this is about the look and execution therein of this movie. The Matrix had no awaiting fan base before it was released...and wasn't an adaption of an pre-existing commercially known property, at least one that Joel Silver and the Wachowski Siblings with admit to. 

No...Speed Racer as adapted by the Wachowskis was designed to appeal to little boys under the agae of 12 years old...and they, Warner, pulled in that very narrow audience. However, the original Speed Racer, at anime (Japanese cartoon) was violence, people got killed, and there was a James Bond esthetic of international intrigue...where Speed used a machine gun to kill advisaries in one of the episodes. This was a world populated with assassins, sociopaths, and for the first time in animation television, it had a story arc--one that featured a long lost brother who left home because of conflicts with his overbearing father. Faking his death after a car crash, Rex Racer disappeared, years later re-emerging as Racer X, now an international agent and assassin who must use his racing skills to enter car races that have been infultrated by conspirators who threaten the security of the entire free world. 

With his brother Speed, often, and accidentally, in the way of the crossfire...and sometimes the focus of it, Racer X acts as Speed's avenging guardian angel...one who his brother, unaware of their relation, views as a villain and anything but a friend. The story arc ends with a scene guaranteed to make anyone cry as Speed is hit with the revelation that Racer X is his brother. Unsure he asks/demands the truth...this after a mission were he and his benefactor bring down a conspiracy together. His opinion now changed, he suddenly views Racer X as a maven. As he approaches him expecting to be embraced, the mysterious Racer X sucker punches him, never answering his question.

Later, found by his loved ones abandoned on the side of a mountainous road, Speed awakens in tears crying out, sobbing, for his brother Rex. The End

That was a movie worth making, but the wachowskis and Joel Silver dumbed it down for toy sales...and thus limited its audience. A film that should have been more adult...with flatter more real world colors, was turned into a Jason Pollack painting as cyphered through a Skittles commercial and the meaningless Spy Kids. That was enough to turn off audiences world wide!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t about different generations, this is about the look and execution therein of this movie. The Matrix had no awaiting fan base before it was released&#8230;and wasn&#8217;t an adaption of an pre-existing commercially known property, at least one that Joel Silver and the Wachowski Siblings with admit to. </p>
<p>No&#8230;Speed Racer as adapted by the Wachowskis was designed to appeal to little boys under the agae of 12 years old&#8230;and they, Warner, pulled in that very narrow audience. However, the original Speed Racer, at anime (Japanese cartoon) was violence, people got killed, and there was a James Bond esthetic of international intrigue&#8230;where Speed used a machine gun to kill advisaries in one of the episodes. This was a world populated with assassins, sociopaths, and for the first time in animation television, it had a story arc&#8211;one that featured a long lost brother who left home because of conflicts with his overbearing father. Faking his death after a car crash, Rex Racer disappeared, years later re-emerging as Racer X, now an international agent and assassin who must use his racing skills to enter car races that have been infultrated by conspirators who threaten the security of the entire free world. </p>
<p>With his brother Speed, often, and accidentally, in the way of the crossfire&#8230;and sometimes the focus of it, Racer X acts as Speed&#8217;s avenging guardian angel&#8230;one who his brother, unaware of their relation, views as a villain and anything but a friend. The story arc ends with a scene guaranteed to make anyone cry as Speed is hit with the revelation that Racer X is his brother. Unsure he asks/demands the truth&#8230;this after a mission were he and his benefactor bring down a conspiracy together. His opinion now changed, he suddenly views Racer X as a maven. As he approaches him expecting to be embraced, the mysterious Racer X sucker punches him, never answering his question.</p>
<p>Later, found by his loved ones abandoned on the side of a mountainous road, Speed awakens in tears crying out, sobbing, for his brother Rex. The End</p>
<p>That was a movie worth making, but the wachowskis and Joel Silver dumbed it down for toy sales&#8230;and thus limited its audience. A film that should have been more adult&#8230;with flatter more real world colors, was turned into a Jason Pollack painting as cyphered through a Skittles commercial and the meaningless Spy Kids. That was enough to turn off audiences world wide!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Dorothy Zbornak</title>
		<link>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/joel-silver/#comment-64238</link>
		<dc:creator>Dorothy Zbornak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 12:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/joel-silver/#comment-64238</guid>
		<description>"Yeah, why would anyone want to create a movie based on an 80s toy line?"

Um, Speed Racer is from the late 60's NOT the 80's, BIG difference in generations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yeah, why would anyone want to create a movie based on an 80s toy line?&#8221;</p>
<p>Um, Speed Racer is from the late 60&#8217;s NOT the 80&#8217;s, BIG difference in generations.</p>
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		<title>By: WBknower</title>
		<link>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/joel-silver/#comment-64100</link>
		<dc:creator>WBknower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 04:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/joel-silver/#comment-64100</guid>
		<description>Joel is actually a decent guy. Has a temper and is a quite a bit over the top but how else would he get to this position without that. Regardless, WB had treated him like a dollar in a nickel factory. WB followed every whim he wanted. 3-d poster? OK. Tons of TV spots? No ok? It was shining a turd. Meanwhile WB doesn't give Clint Eastwood the same treatment. He's won them countless awards yet they disrespect him (inside) constantly.
BTW, If Joel goes anywhere ask this... where does his daughter work? Universal. He can start over easily and win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joel is actually a decent guy. Has a temper and is a quite a bit over the top but how else would he get to this position without that. Regardless, WB had treated him like a dollar in a nickel factory. WB followed every whim he wanted. 3-d poster? OK. Tons of TV spots? No ok? It was shining a turd. Meanwhile WB doesn&#8217;t give Clint Eastwood the same treatment. He&#8217;s won them countless awards yet they disrespect him (inside) constantly.<br />
BTW, If Joel goes anywhere ask this&#8230; where does his daughter work? Universal. He can start over easily and win.</p>
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		<title>By: william randolph hearst</title>
		<link>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/joel-silver/#comment-63978</link>
		<dc:creator>william randolph hearst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 23:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/joel-silver/#comment-63978</guid>
		<description>It couldnt have happened to a nicer guy.


ASS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It couldnt have happened to a nicer guy.</p>
<p>ASS.</p>
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		<title>By: skeletor</title>
		<link>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/joel-silver/#comment-63744</link>
		<dc:creator>skeletor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 17:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/joel-silver/#comment-63744</guid>
		<description>Yeah, why would anyone want to create a movie based on an 80s toy line? Someone tell that to Michael Bay and Spielberg please, I think they're making another Transformers movie, and look how little money the first one made! And that big G.I. Joe movie they're shooting--tell them quick!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, why would anyone want to create a movie based on an 80s toy line? Someone tell that to Michael Bay and Spielberg please, I think they&#8217;re making another Transformers movie, and look how little money the first one made! And that big G.I. Joe movie they&#8217;re shooting&#8211;tell them quick!</p>
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		<title>By: JackTheRpper</title>
		<link>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/joel-silver/#comment-63719</link>
		<dc:creator>JackTheRpper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 15:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/joel-silver/#comment-63719</guid>
		<description>Joel's a has been. With films like "The Brave One" and this "Speed Racer" diaster and many other horrible films, why would WB continue to make business with this inflated producer that is just an ass to everyone. Goodbye Joel. Its over time to move to UA / MGM I heard they ate hiring just anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joel&#8217;s a has been. With films like &#8220;The Brave One&#8221; and this &#8220;Speed Racer&#8221; diaster and many other horrible films, why would WB continue to make business with this inflated producer that is just an ass to everyone. Goodbye Joel. Its over time to move to UA / MGM I heard they ate hiring just anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Kenny</title>
		<link>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/joel-silver/#comment-63680</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 13:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/joel-silver/#comment-63680</guid>
		<description>I'm not someone with any connections or relevance in Hollywood, but I can say Joel Silver has always been arrogant, rude, and an overall jerk for quite a while now. He's screwed more people than Jenna Jameson and I'm happy to watch his demise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not someone with any connections or relevance in Hollywood, but I can say Joel Silver has always been arrogant, rude, and an overall jerk for quite a while now. He&#8217;s screwed more people than Jenna Jameson and I&#8217;m happy to watch his demise.</p>
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		<title>By: Digger</title>
		<link>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/joel-silver/#comment-63679</link>
		<dc:creator>Digger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 13:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/joel-silver/#comment-63679</guid>
		<description>Lord Joel is the real deal.  Warners should know that the second they let him go, he'll end up competing against them and making somebody else money.  Silver knows what a movie an audience wants to see is and that's more than can be said about half the producers in Hollywood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lord Joel is the real deal.  Warners should know that the second they let him go, he&#8217;ll end up competing against them and making somebody else money.  Silver knows what a movie an audience wants to see is and that&#8217;s more than can be said about half the producers in Hollywood.</p>
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		<title>By: Armand</title>
		<link>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/joel-silver/#comment-63667</link>
		<dc:creator>Armand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 12:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank God he has nothing to do with Harry Potter's franchise. 

I feel bad for him but you know the saying, 'You are as good as your last film'.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank God he has nothing to do with Harry Potter&#8217;s franchise. </p>
<p>I feel bad for him but you know the saying, &#8216;You are as good as your last film&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Captain Howdy</title>
		<link>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/joel-silver/#comment-63595</link>
		<dc:creator>Captain Howdy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 07:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I can work for a year on a TV serious, and the one time I am 5 minutes late on set with something, my neck is on the chopping block. There is very little tolerance in this business for mistakes. I have NO sympathy whatsoever when a "top dog" like Silver gets in hot water. I'm sure he's given other people grief for far less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I can work for a year on a TV serious, and the one time I am 5 minutes late on set with something, my neck is on the chopping block. There is very little tolerance in this business for mistakes. I have NO sympathy whatsoever when a &#8220;top dog&#8221; like Silver gets in hot water. I&#8217;m sure he&#8217;s given other people grief for far less.</p>
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		<title>By: George Glass</title>
		<link>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/joel-silver/#comment-63592</link>
		<dc:creator>George Glass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 07:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/joel-silver/#comment-63592</guid>
		<description>I saw Speed Racer today with my 11-year-old little brother and he adored it.  Although he did think it was a little long (which it clearly is.)  It's weird as hell and even bad in places (like the original), and the kid humor can be more than a little grating to those of us above 12, and yes, characters speak without any subtext throughout, but... it is visually stunning and one of the rare time I came out of a movie saying, "I've never seen anything like that before in my entire life."  

The racing scenes -- especially the extended one -- are simply breathtaking.  A wild wild bizarre mind-boggling and very fun trip.  College kids experimenting with 'shrooms are gonna make this one a classic on DVD.

If you have kids or young siblings, take 'em.  And if you like to see some nutty but completely original filmmaking go see it for yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw Speed Racer today with my 11-year-old little brother and he adored it.  Although he did think it was a little long (which it clearly is.)  It&#8217;s weird as hell and even bad in places (like the original), and the kid humor can be more than a little grating to those of us above 12, and yes, characters speak without any subtext throughout, but&#8230; it is visually stunning and one of the rare time I came out of a movie saying, &#8220;I&#8217;ve never seen anything like that before in my entire life.&#8221;  </p>
<p>The racing scenes &#8212; especially the extended one &#8212; are simply breathtaking.  A wild wild bizarre mind-boggling and very fun trip.  College kids experimenting with &#8217;shrooms are gonna make this one a classic on DVD.</p>
<p>If you have kids or young siblings, take &#8216;em.  And if you like to see some nutty but completely original filmmaking go see it for yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Bond</title>
		<link>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/joel-silver/#comment-63568</link>
		<dc:creator>Bond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 05:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"a friend who is a UCLA screenwriting professor, another screenwriting friend and his family, myself and my 11 year old, all who loved it."

Yikes. I'd rather trust the critics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;a friend who is a UCLA screenwriting professor, another screenwriting friend and his family, myself and my 11 year old, all who loved it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yikes. I&#8217;d rather trust the critics.</p>
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