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	<title>Comments on: EXCLUSIVE: Talks Day #3 'Stalemated'</title>
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		<title>By: Neal</title>
		<link>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/exclusive-talks-day-3-stalemated/#comment-12658</link>
		<dc:creator>Neal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 05:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Kyle,

Apparently, the AMPTP also doesn't understand what "partner" means, because they've been talking about a "New Economic Partnership" with the WGA, so maybe you should let them know what it means, too. 

And since residuals on TV episodes are actually deferred payments, when a show bombs and never gets rerun, writers never see those deferred payments -- so, yes -- we do share the losses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Kyle,</p>
<p>Apparently, the AMPTP also doesn&#8217;t understand what &#8220;partner&#8221; means, because they&#8217;ve been talking about a &#8220;New Economic Partnership&#8221; with the WGA, so maybe you should let them know what it means, too. </p>
<p>And since residuals on TV episodes are actually deferred payments, when a show bombs and never gets rerun, writers never see those deferred payments &#8212; so, yes &#8212; we do share the losses.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
		<link>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/exclusive-talks-day-3-stalemated/#comment-12479</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 05:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#62;&#62;They should be dealing with us as partners&#60;&#60;

Really? Are you planning to invest some of your money and share the losses on the 80% of shows that fail? Nope, didn't think so. You apparently don't understand the definition of the word partner. Please look it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;They should be dealing with us as partners&lt;&lt;</p>
<p>Really? Are you planning to invest some of your money and share the losses on the 80% of shows that fail? Nope, didn&#8217;t think so. You apparently don&#8217;t understand the definition of the word partner. Please look it up.</p>
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		<title>By: Viewer</title>
		<link>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/exclusive-talks-day-3-stalemated/#comment-12385</link>
		<dc:creator>Viewer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 01:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PJ-

Hope it makes you feel better - I enjoyed your rant!  No apology necessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PJ-</p>
<p>Hope it makes you feel better - I enjoyed your rant!  No apology necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/exclusive-talks-day-3-stalemated/#comment-12253</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bryan is the wrong guy for this job. His southern charm is nice but he doesn't have the stature that Wasserman did. Katzenberg is the one who should be doing this diplomacy. But he doesn't want to. He's really the only person who could force both sides to come to an agreement faster. He's writer friendly but he's also a tough savvy mogul. Draft Jeffrey and a deal will be done much quicker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bryan is the wrong guy for this job. His southern charm is nice but he doesn&#8217;t have the stature that Wasserman did. Katzenberg is the one who should be doing this diplomacy. But he doesn&#8217;t want to. He&#8217;s really the only person who could force both sides to come to an agreement faster. He&#8217;s writer friendly but he&#8217;s also a tough savvy mogul. Draft Jeffrey and a deal will be done much quicker.</p>
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		<title>By: One Time Sitcom Writer</title>
		<link>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/exclusive-talks-day-3-stalemated/#comment-12241</link>
		<dc:creator>One Time Sitcom Writer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's it - I'm heading over to the Safari Inn to get these negotiations moving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s it - I&#8217;m heading over to the Safari Inn to get these negotiations moving.</p>
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		<title>By: Caitlin</title>
		<link>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/exclusive-talks-day-3-stalemated/#comment-12226</link>
		<dc:creator>Caitlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on, Lourd! Get us somewhere! This is rediculous. Regardless of whether this is a AMPTP ploy or not, this makes both sides look bad. Once again: hardball, people. Playing chicken doesn't count.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on, Lourd! Get us somewhere! This is rediculous. Regardless of whether this is a AMPTP ploy or not, this makes both sides look bad. Once again: hardball, people. Playing chicken doesn&#8217;t count.</p>
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		<title>By: outside the gates</title>
		<link>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/exclusive-talks-day-3-stalemated/#comment-12221</link>
		<dc:creator>outside the gates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope the WGA continues to put together strong protests outside the studio doors.  

This sounds like a total studio PR attempt and I think they are waiting for the WGA to blink or walk away first.   I'm glad the leaders on the WGA side are stronger than in past years.  See you all on the strike line...

- writer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope the WGA continues to put together strong protests outside the studio doors.  </p>
<p>This sounds like a total studio PR attempt and I think they are waiting for the WGA to blink or walk away first.   I&#8217;m glad the leaders on the WGA side are stronger than in past years.  See you all on the strike line&#8230;</p>
<p>- writer</p>
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		<title>By: DA in LA</title>
		<link>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/exclusive-talks-day-3-stalemated/#comment-12220</link>
		<dc:creator>DA in LA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not surprising.  Google, what are you doing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not surprising.  Google, what are you doing?</p>
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		<title>By: soon-to-be-ex-writer</title>
		<link>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/exclusive-talks-day-3-stalemated/#comment-12219</link>
		<dc:creator>soon-to-be-ex-writer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>some other game's afoot.  i'm taking the cue, and looking for a new line of work.  see ya.


-- from a writer on a prime-time network show</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>some other game&#8217;s afoot.  i&#8217;m taking the cue, and looking for a new line of work.  see ya.</p>
<p>&#8211; from a writer on a prime-time network show</p>
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		<title>By: PJ - Writer</title>
		<link>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/exclusive-talks-day-3-stalemated/#comment-12218</link>
		<dc:creator>PJ - Writer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry about the rant gang, It's just that I'm sick of this AMPTP BS strategy. THEY are stalling, not us.

We may need ONE OF THEM to kick the crap out of them. Some hard core Former Wall Street Type or Fortune 500 CEO "Gun for Hire" with serious connections to the Digital Platform future Companies to "google" their asses into making a fair deal before the fear of losing it all settles into their little cold, calculating, feverish beancounting brains.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry about the rant gang, It&#8217;s just that I&#8217;m sick of this AMPTP BS strategy. THEY are stalling, not us.</p>
<p>We may need ONE OF THEM to kick the crap out of them. Some hard core Former Wall Street Type or Fortune 500 CEO &#8220;Gun for Hire&#8221; with serious connections to the Digital Platform future Companies to &#8220;google&#8221; their asses into making a fair deal before the fear of losing it all settles into their little cold, calculating, feverish beancounting brains.</p>
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		<title>By: PJ - writer</title>
		<link>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/exclusive-talks-day-3-stalemated/#comment-12214</link>
		<dc:creator>PJ - writer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/exclusive-talks-day-3-stalemated/#comment-12214</guid>
		<description>Pretty much what many thought. NO progress. And AMPTP put out that BS that we walked when "progress" towards a settlement was being made back in Early Nov.

Well, what "progress" exactly were they talking about?

None, why is why we walked. Okay dickheads, stick to your plan. Make incrementally better offers over time until you have to capitulate to some fair settlement. In JUNE, earliest, if that's what you want. If that is your strategy, dickheads.

I can't believe this is actually happening, that the AMPTP wouldn't bargain in good faith and treat us this way over pennies on the dollar. They expect us to break, and this time we won't. I said all along this is about fairness and respect and that is exactly what it IS about, with that we wouldn't be in this situation. They don't respect Writers and they DON"T want to bargain fairly. There is over 50 years of history behind this. Nothing has changed...

My God, THEY get 1100 cents profit on One DVD, we get 4 cents. The Content Creators get 4 cents, after being told back in 1999 they would "see how things go" and then provide some reasonable solution if sales grow. Well, DVD sales grew 75% in the next few years. Did they ever make good on their promise? NO. Is it happening now? No. 

Who is to think that they will treat us any differently when it comes to HV/New Media. Anyone believe they will? Fool me once...

My God, to pick a fight with Writers over pennies instead of putting energy into harnessing the digital future is typical of a myopic, petty mindset.

Again, I say we walk. We walk until it costs them 3 times, 5 times more money than it would have if they just dealt with us fairly in the first place. In three years we will be back at this again and they have to get the message now, TODAY, that they are dealing with a different adversary. They should be dealing with us as partners, unfortuantely, we have become their adversaries because they have made us into adversaries.

This is a pitiful shame on corporate greed, it must be dealt with and dealt with in no uncertain terms.

Keep your pants on Guys, and thanks Bryan, your efforts are noble and appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty much what many thought. NO progress. And AMPTP put out that BS that we walked when &#8220;progress&#8221; towards a settlement was being made back in Early Nov.</p>
<p>Well, what &#8220;progress&#8221; exactly were they talking about?</p>
<p>None, why is why we walked. Okay dickheads, stick to your plan. Make incrementally better offers over time until you have to capitulate to some fair settlement. In JUNE, earliest, if that&#8217;s what you want. If that is your strategy, dickheads.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t believe this is actually happening, that the AMPTP wouldn&#8217;t bargain in good faith and treat us this way over pennies on the dollar. They expect us to break, and this time we won&#8217;t. I said all along this is about fairness and respect and that is exactly what it IS about, with that we wouldn&#8217;t be in this situation. They don&#8217;t respect Writers and they DON&#8221;T want to bargain fairly. There is over 50 years of history behind this. Nothing has changed&#8230;</p>
<p>My God, THEY get 1100 cents profit on One DVD, we get 4 cents. The Content Creators get 4 cents, after being told back in 1999 they would &#8220;see how things go&#8221; and then provide some reasonable solution if sales grow. Well, DVD sales grew 75% in the next few years. Did they ever make good on their promise? NO. Is it happening now? No. </p>
<p>Who is to think that they will treat us any differently when it comes to HV/New Media. Anyone believe they will? Fool me once&#8230;</p>
<p>My God, to pick a fight with Writers over pennies instead of putting energy into harnessing the digital future is typical of a myopic, petty mindset.</p>
<p>Again, I say we walk. We walk until it costs them 3 times, 5 times more money than it would have if they just dealt with us fairly in the first place. In three years we will be back at this again and they have to get the message now, TODAY, that they are dealing with a different adversary. They should be dealing with us as partners, unfortuantely, we have become their adversaries because they have made us into adversaries.</p>
<p>This is a pitiful shame on corporate greed, it must be dealt with and dealt with in no uncertain terms.</p>
<p>Keep your pants on Guys, and thanks Bryan, your efforts are noble and appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: grimes</title>
		<link>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/exclusive-talks-day-3-stalemated/#comment-12211</link>
		<dc:creator>grimes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Nikki.  Could you follow up with your sources and ask them why nothing is being achieved?  Have the conglomerates made their promised new offer yet three days into resumed negotiations?  If not, why not?  What are they waiting for?  Why do they keep saying it's coming tomorrow... and then... nothing?  And have you followed up with your sources who were telling you over the weekend that a deal was already done?  Wha' happened?  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Nikki.  Could you follow up with your sources and ask them why nothing is being achieved?  Have the conglomerates made their promised new offer yet three days into resumed negotiations?  If not, why not?  What are they waiting for?  Why do they keep saying it&#8217;s coming tomorrow&#8230; and then&#8230; nothing?  And have you followed up with your sources who were telling you over the weekend that a deal was already done?  Wha&#8217; happened?  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: TV Showrunner</title>
		<link>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/exclusive-talks-day-3-stalemated/#comment-12210</link>
		<dc:creator>TV Showrunner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But our pickets and rallies have been so awesome!  Our videos are so funny!  Why aren't the studios rolling over in fear of our solidarity?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But our pickets and rallies have been so awesome!  Our videos are so funny!  Why aren&#8217;t the studios rolling over in fear of our solidarity?</p>
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		<title>By: Sammy Glick</title>
		<link>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/exclusive-talks-day-3-stalemated/#comment-12206</link>
		<dc:creator>Sammy Glick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a fucking nightmare. These people all need to be ground into chum and thrown into Shamu's tank at Sea World.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a fucking nightmare. These people all need to be ground into chum and thrown into Shamu&#8217;s tank at Sea World.</p>
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